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- [Noufal Ibrahim](https://twitter.com/noufalibrahim), freelance programmer and trainer who was an integral part of Bangpypers in its initial days.
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- [Vandana Verma Singhal](https://twitter.com/InfosecVandana), A security advocate and president of [Infosecgirls](https://www.infosecgirls.in/).
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Firstly the panel shared their experience about being part of a community where Anand Pillai recalled the origins of Bangpypers about how a call for the meetup was made on the then-active communities of PERL and PHP and how people showed up only in the final minutes at a hotel in MG road. Most of the panellists recalled of how their beginnings at communities were through IRC chatrooms and mailing lists. Noufal had a good instance to share about hosting few folks from Switzerland whom he had only met on an online emacs community when they were here in India. Vandana gave us a sneak peek into the infosec community and how she was introduced to the community through a by chance meeting with NULLconf and OWASP leads at the time and how the community has grown from a group of 20 where she was the only woman to its current scale.
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Firstly the panel shared their experience about being part of a community where Anand Pillai recalled the origins of Bangpypers about how a call for the meetup was made on the then-active communities of PERL and PHP and how people showed up only in the final minutes at a hotel in MG road. Most of the panelists recalled of how their beginnings at communities were through IRC chatrooms and mailing lists. Noufal had a good instance to share about hosting few folks from Switzerland whom he had only met on an online emacs community when they were here in India. Vandana gave us a sneak peek into the infosec community and how she was introduced to the community through a by chance meeting with NULLconf and OWASP leads at the time and how the community has grown from a group of 20 where she was the only woman to its current scale.
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When asked about the sort of changes and shift seen over time in their respective communities in terms of collaboration and the attitude of the participants the panellists had the following things to share- Anand P picked reference from the Data analysis that he put together for the Bangpypers' 100th meetup to denote how the internet penetration had transformed the communities from being small pockets of active passionate people to massive groups of people across age groups and professions. He also laid stress of how the blowup in participation has taken out the true essence of sharing in communities where the people attending do not indulge in organic participation, these days they are mostly here to consume and move on to the next big thing that catches their eye. Anand C drew the importance to how the face-to-face meetups had so much more closure to offer than just collaborating online and denoted how we have moved away from mailing lists and that we have to embrace it for it gives an unique offering to collaborate through its simplicity and transparency. Noufal also seconded the previous panellists when he discussed the shift in forums and platforms away from mailing lists that the communities are using these days. He also made a convincing point of how the Communities are turning into strategic gatherings for the organisations just to scout for talent and publicise their product removing the core interest of the group which was the reason they initially gathered there for, the plea was that this is acceptable an informal consequence in the early days but now it's taking a wrong turn and has to be checked to retain the interests of the communities going forward. Vandana highlighted how the communities are opening up learning and guidance opportunities to students, and how learning as a group gives a healthy motivation and a sense of closure in their journey to explore new technologies and pick nuances of the work from the seasoned member of the community. She also pointed that the communities and meetups have led to the popular adoption of FOSS and have paved the way for the emergence of developer advocacy.
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When asked about the sort of changes and shift seen over time in their respective communities in terms of collaboration and the attitude of the participants the panelists had the following things to share- Anand P picked reference from the Data analysis that he put together for the Bangpypers' 100th meetup to denote how the internet penetration had transformed the communities from being small pockets of active passionate people to massive groups of people across age groups and professions. He also laid stress of how the blowup in participation has taken out the true essence of sharing in communities where the people attending do not indulge in organic participation, these days they are mostly here to consume and move on to the next big thing that catches their eye. Anand C drew the importance to how the face-to-face meetups had so much more closure to offer than just collaborating online and denoted how we have moved away from mailing lists and that we have to embrace it for it gives an unique offering to collaborate through its simplicity and transparency. Noufal also seconded the previous panelists when he discussed the shift in forums and platforms away from mailing lists that the communities are using these days. He also made a convincing point of how the Communities are turning into strategic gatherings for the organisations just to scout for talent and publicise their product removing the core interest of the group which was the reason they initially gathered there for, the plea was that this is acceptable an informal consequence in the early days but now it's taking a wrong turn and has to be checked to retain the interests of the communities going forward. Vandana highlighted how the communities are opening up learning and guidance opportunities to students, and how learning as a group gives a healthy motivation and a sense of closure in their journey to explore new technologies and pick nuances of the work from the seasoned member of the community. She also pointed that the communities and meetups have led to the popular adoption of FOSS and have paved the way for the emergence of developer advocacy.
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Given the current scenario and the popularization of online meetups and conferences, when asked about the effects of these over the on-premise in-person meetups, the panellists had the following things to say.
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Given the current scenario and the popularization of online meetups and conferences, when asked about the effects of these over the on-premise in-person meetups, the panelists had the following things to say.
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Anand C pointed out how the shift to online meetups has removed the opportunities and discussions that cropped up through Hallway chats which are very difficult to replicate in the current setting and how unnatural those would seem even if we manage to replicate them. Vandana highlighted how things have taken a fast-paced turn in the online era of meetups to an extent that it is removing the essence of these meetups.
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title: "Open house"
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- rahul
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description: "Starting the year with an openhouse"
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categories: [ meetup, talks]
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We at Bangpypers started our year with an openhouse session on twitter spaces.
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We had quite a few joining us for an hour-long discussion around everything python.
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The range of topics that we discussed includes:
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- How python is used in the crypto space?
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- The pros and cons of using python as the first language in teaching programming.
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- On similar lines, how [Django](https://www.djangoproject.com/) abstracts most of the intricacies of web development compared to [Flask](https://flask.palletsprojects.com/) and if it would be a good choice to be the first framework for web development.
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- How effectively are the newly released language feature are put to use in functional day to day coding. Few of the features we pondered are:
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- [Walrus operator](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0572/)
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- [Structured pattern matching](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0436/)
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- [Union types' representation with `|` operator](https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0604/)
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- Analyzing the experiences of using [ASGI](https://asgi.readthedocs.io/en/latest/) in unison with Django.
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- Weighing the flexibility of different ORM used with Django.(here is the [list of resources](https://www.fullstackpython.com/django-orm.html) to help)
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Yeah, we were surprised too, for a change the discussion mostly revolved around web development alone with no hint of data science at all. If you like to participate in more such openhouse sessions do follow us here
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- On Twitter - [@__bangpypers__](https://twitter.com/__bangpypers__).
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- On our very active Discord server using this [invite](https://discord.com/invite/5hanJnWf9m).
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- Follow our meetup schedules on Meetup [here](https://www.meetup.com/BangPypers/).
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- Do join our mailing list [here](https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers).

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