diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups.py
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+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+Surface abstraction of one atom to another adsorbate. The bond fission occurs not at the binding atom, but in the beta position of the adsorbate, that is the bond between Atom *2 and *3 is broken. Atom *1 is bonded to the surface (*5). The bond order between *1/*3 and the surface decreases. An example for this reaction is: COH* + CH2* = CO* + CH3*. The bond between *2 and *3 must be single.
+
+    *4
+     |
+ *1-*2=*3          *7            *1=*2=*3    *7-*4
+  |     :          ||      ---->              |
+~*5~ +~*6~  +     ~*8~~           ~*5~  +   ~*8~~  + ~*6~
+
+The rate, which should be in mol/m2/s,
+will be given by k * (mol/m2) * (mol/m2)
+so k should be in (m2/mol/s). 
+"""
+
+template(reactants=["Donating", "Abstracting"], products=["Adsorbate2","Adsorbate3", "VacantSite"], ownReverse=False)
+
+reverse = "Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_reverse_Beta"
+
+reactantNum=2
+productNum=3
+
+recipe(actions=[
+    ['FORM_BOND', '*4', 1, '*7'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*7', -1, '*8'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', -1, '*5'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', 1, '*2'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*3', 1, '*6'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*3', 1, '*6'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*2', 1, '*4'],
+])
+
+entry(
+    index = 1,
+    label = "Donating",
+    group =
+"""
+1 *1 O   u0 p2 {2,S} {5,S}
+2 *2 R!H u0 {1,S} {3,D} {4,S}
+3 *3 O   u0 p2 {2,D} {6,vdW}
+4 *4 R u0 {2,S}
+5 *5 X  u0 {1,S}
+6 *6 X  u0 {3,vdW}
+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+entry(
+    index = 2,
+    label="Abstracting",
+    group =
+"""
+1 *8 Xo  u0 {2,[D,T,Q]}
+2 *7 R!H u0 px c0 {1,[D,T,Q]}	
+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+tree(
+"""
+L1: Abstracting
+L1: Donating
+"""
+)
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules.py
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+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+"""
+
+entry(
+    index = 1,
+    label = "Abstracting;Donating",
+    kinetics = SurfaceArrheniusBEP(
+        A = (4.18e17, 'm^2/(mol*s)'),
+        n = 0.,
+        alpha = 0.94,
+        E0 = (129.3, 'kJ/mol'),
+        Tmin = (200, 'K'),
+        Tmax = (3000, 'K'),
+    ),
+    rank = 0,
+    shortDesc = u"""Default""",
+    longDesc = u""" 
+These numbers for the general BEP are from the abstraction reaction of C-H to O.
+BEP values from "Combined DFT, Microkinetic, and Experimental Study of Ethanol Steam Reforming on Pt", Sutton et al., The Journal of Physical Chemistry C, 2013, 117, 4691-4706, DOI:10.1021/jp312593u
+From Table 7 includes beta and alpha position. Pre-exponential coefficient is calculated from 1e13 s^-1 (standard guess from transition state theory) divided by 2.39e-9 mol cm^-2 (surface site density of Pt(111)
+"""
+)
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new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..e69de29bb2
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..4fa90f3a92
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py
@@ -0,0 +1,3 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..3553dc5cb4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py
@@ -0,0 +1,53 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/groups"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+Surface bond fission of one species into two distinct adsorbates. Atom *1 is bonded to the surface (*3). The image below shows a single bond, but single, double, and triple are possible. What matters is that the bond between *1 and *2 must be single.
+    # NOTE: we should probably include vdW, too!
+
+ *1-*2=*3              *1     *2=*3
+  |     :     ---->    ||      |
+~*4~  ~*5~~           ~*4~ + ~*5~~
+
+
+The rate, which should be in mol/m2/s,
+will be given by k * (mol/m2) * (mol/m2)
+so k should be in (m2/mol/s)
+"""
+
+template(reactants=["Combined"], products=["Adsorbate1", "Adsorbate2"], ownReverse=False)
+
+reverse = "Surface_Association_vdW_Bidentate"
+
+reactantNum=1
+productNum=2
+
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+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', 1, '*4'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*1', 1, '*2'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*3', 1, '*5'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*3', 1, '*5'],
+    ['FORM_BOND', '*2', 1, '*5'],
+])
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+    label = "Combined",
+    group =
+"""
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+2 *2 R!H u0 {1,S} {3,D}
+3 *3 O   u0 p2 {2,D} {5,vdW}
+4 *4 X  u0 {1,S}
+5 *5 X  u0 {3,vdW}
+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+tree(
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+L1: Combined
+"""
+)
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py
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index 0000000000..3d393f31f6
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+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py
@@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
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+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/rules"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+"""
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+    index = 1,
+    label = "Combined",
+    kinetics = SurfaceArrheniusBEP(
+        A = (1e13, '1/s'),
+        n = 0,
+        alpha = 0.84,
+        E0 = (44.25, 'kcal/mol'),
+        Tmin = (200, 'K'),
+        Tmax = (3000, 'K'),
+    ),
+    rank = 0,
+    shortDesc = u"""Default""",
+    longDesc = u"""
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+"Universal Brønsted-Evans-Polanyi Relations for C–C, C–O, C–N, N–O, N–N, and O–O Dissociation Reactions" by Wang, ..., Norskov/ Catal. Lett (2011) 141:370-373, DOI: 10.1007/s10562-010-0477-y
+(actual value for E0 was 1.92 eV.)
+Pre-exponential coefficient is calculated from 1e13 s^-1 (standard guess from transition state theory) divided by 2.39e-9 mol cm^-2 (surface site density of Pt(111)
+    """
+)
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training/dictionary.txt b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training/dictionary.txt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..e69de29bb2
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..3a048fe6dc
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate/training"
+shortDesc = u"Reaction kinetics used to generate rate rules"
+longDesc = u"""
+Put kinetic parameters for specific reactions in this file to use as a
+training set for generating rate rules to populate this kinetics family.
+"""
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..952a545835
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups.py
@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/groups"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+Surface bond fission of one species into two distinct adsorbates. Atom *1 is bonded to the surface (*3). The image below shows a single bond, but single, double, and triple are possible. What matters is that the bond between *1 and *2 must be single.
+    # NOTE: we should probably include vdW, too!
+
+    *4
+     |
+ *1-*2=*3           *1=*2=*3  *4
+  |     :     ---->            |
+~*5~  ~*6~~           ~*5~ + ~*6~~
+
+
+The rate, which should be in mol/m2/s,
+will be given by k * (mol/m2) * (mol/m2)
+so k should be in (m2/mol/s)
+"""
+
+template(reactants=["Combined"], products=["Adsorbate1", "Adsorbate2"], ownReverse=False)
+
+reverse = "Surface_Association_vdW_Bidentate_Beta"
+
+reactantNum=1
+productNum=2
+
+recipe(actions=[
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', -1, '*5'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', 1, '*2'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*2', 1, '*4'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*3', 1, '*6'],
+    ['BREAK_BOND', '*3', 1, '*6'],
+    ['FORM_BOND', '*4', 1, '*6'],
+])
+
+entry(
+    index = 1,
+    label = "Combined",
+    group =
+"""
+1 *1 O   u0 p2 {2,S} {5,S}
+2 *2 R!H u0 {1,S} {3,D} {4,S}
+3 *3 O   u0 p2 {2,D} {6,vdW}
+4 *4 R u0 {2,S}
+5 *5 X  u0 {1,S}
+6 *6 X  u0 {3,vdW}
+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+tree(
+"""
+L1: Combined
+"""
+)
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..f3730d91ba
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules.py
@@ -0,0 +1,27 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/rules"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+"""
+entry(
+    index = 1,
+    label = "Combined",
+    kinetics = SurfaceArrheniusBEP(
+        A = (1e13, '1/s'),
+        n = 0,
+        alpha = 0.84,
+        E0 = (44.25, 'kcal/mol'),
+        Tmin = (200, 'K'),
+        Tmax = (3000, 'K'),
+    ),
+    rank = 0,
+    shortDesc = u"""Default""",
+    longDesc = u"""
+E0 and alpha are taken from:
+"Universal Brønsted-Evans-Polanyi Relations for C–C, C–O, C–N, N–O, N–N, and O–O Dissociation Reactions" by Wang, ..., Norskov/ Catal. Lett (2011) 141:370-373, DOI: 10.1007/s10562-010-0477-y
+(actual value for E0 was 1.92 eV.)
+Pre-exponential coefficient is calculated from 1e13 s^-1 (standard guess from transition state theory) divided by 2.39e-9 mol cm^-2 (surface site density of Pt(111)
+    """
+)
\ No newline at end of file
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/dictionary.txt b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/dictionary.txt
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..e69de29bb2
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..28c954e974
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training/reactions.py
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta/training"
+shortDesc = u"Reaction kinetics used to generate rate rules"
+longDesc = u"""
+Put kinetic parameters for specific reactions in this file to use as a
+training set for generating rate rules to populate this kinetics family.
+"""
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..5168540a9b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/groups.py
@@ -0,0 +1,60 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+If a monodentate adsorbate has an internal double or triple bond, then it can fall over onto a vacant site, creating a bidentate.
+
+ *1-*2=*3                 *1=*2-*3  
+  |              ---->     :     |     
+~*4~ + ~*5~~             ~*4~~~~*5~~ 
+
+The rate, which should be in mol/m2/s,
+will be given by k * (mol/m2) * (mol/m2)
+so k should be in (m2/mol/s)
+"""
+
+template(reactants=["Monodentate", "VacantSite"], products=["Bidentate"], ownReverse=False)
+
+reverse = "Surface_vdW_Bidentate_to_Monodentate"
+
+recipe(actions=[
+    ['FORM_BOND', '*3', 1, '*5'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*2', -1, '*3'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', 1, '*2'],
+    ['CHANGE_BOND', '*1', -1, '*4'],
+]) 
+
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+    index = 1,
+    label = "Monodentate",
+    group =
+"""
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+3 *3 O  u0 p2 {2,D} 
+4 *4 Xo u0 {1,S}
+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+entry(
+    index = 2,
+    label="VacantSite",
+    group =
+"""
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+""",
+    kinetics = None,
+)
+
+
+tree(
+"""
+L1: Monodentate
+
+L1: VacantSite
+"""
+)
+
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..85bb72f2f5
--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/rules.py
@@ -0,0 +1,35 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Monodentate_to_Bidentate/rules"
+shortDesc = u""
+longDesc = u"""
+"""
+entry(
+    index = 1,
+    label = "Monodentate;VacantSite",
+    kinetics = SurfaceArrheniusBEP(
+        A = (7.15e20, 'cm^2/(mol*s)'),
+        n = 0.0,
+        alpha = 0,
+        E0 = (3, 'kJ/mol'),
+        Tmin = (200, 'K'),
+        Tmax = (3000, 'K'),
+    ),
+    rank = 0,
+    shortDesc = u"""Default""",
+    longDesc = u"""
+Pre-exponential value and E0 are from R6b in Table 2 of "Automatic mechanism generation involving 
+kinetics of surface reactions with bidentate adsorbates"
+Authors:  B. Kreitz, K. Blöndal, K. Badger, R. H. West and C. F. Goldsmith
+doi:10.1039/d3dd00184a
+
+The reaction R6b is
+   *CHCH2 + *  -> *CH*CH2
+
+Other monodentate to bidentate reactions in this publication were without reaction barriers.
+"""
+)
+
+
+
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/template.cdx b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/template.cdx
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index 0000000000..f9f5b9b74f
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/template.pdf b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/template.pdf
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training/dictionary.txt b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training/dictionary.txt
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diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py
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--- /dev/null
+++ b/input/kinetics/families/Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training/reactions.py
@@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python
+# encoding: utf-8
+
+name = "Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate/training"
+shortDesc = u"Reaction kinetics used to generate rate rules"
+longDesc = u"""
+Put kinetic parameters for specific reactions in this file to use as a
+training set for generating rate rules to populate this kinetics family.
+"""
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/input/kinetics/families/recommended.py b/input/kinetics/families/recommended.py
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@@ -129,6 +129,10 @@
     'Surface_Abstraction_Charge_Separation',
     'Surface_Dissociation_Charge_Separation',
     'Surface_Dissociation_Charge_Single',
+    'Surface_Monodentate_to_vdW_Bidentate',
+    'Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate',
+    'Surface_Dissociation_vdW_Bidentate_Beta',
+    'Surface_Abstraction_vdW_Bidentate_Beta',
     #'Surface_Carbonate_Deposition',
     #'Surface_Carbonate_F_CO_Decomposition',
     #'Surface_Carbonate_2F_Decomposition',